HELPING people to excel in their rugby union roles - it is something Scott Hatch has worked hard at in all his years as a coach but now he is coupling it with his own personal improvement.
As Hatch, who is assisting the CSU women's side this season, waited for news on the status of the Central West Rugby Union competition during the coronavirus shutdown, he signed up for a coaching challenge.
"During this time there has been a lot of coach the coach sessions going on and I've signed up for my World Level 3, so there's a fair bit of learning going on there," Hatch revealed.
"There is a level four, but you have to be invited to do that - it's your Michael Cheikas and those sort of people. Your World Level 3 is the next one down.
"With that obviously comes the opportunity to be around the better coaches to learn, things like getting an invite to go and work with the Brumbies, those sort of opportunities are really great."
The coaching program will help Hatch, who's resume includes guiding the CSU men's side, Central West colts and NSW Country under 15s, further develop his skills as mentor.
It involves working on analysis of an opposition, patterns of play and areas such as restarts, continuity, defence and counter attack.
Assessing the strengths and weaknesses of his own team and managing other coaching staff is also part of the course. It is something Hatch is already working on at CSU.
He is mentoring aspiring coaches Dave Grayche and Lizzie Butt plus working with CSU's women's squad. In doing that Hatch feels that not only will they improve, but he will too.
And that is what Hatch is driven to do.
"I don't think it changes if it's a boy or a girl or the level you are at, you are always looking to improve and be the best player that you can be," he said.
"You're looking at tapping into the areas or the people or whatever it might be to get you there.
"That's the thing as a coach, on the flip side of things, when you are trying to teach new people it really comes back to my learning and how I am passing on my learning. It's re-teaching me how to coach, which is frustrating sometimes but I know it's also very good."